And it's amazing how out of range we can be in terms of our expectations or understanding of these things.

But one thing that's very advantageous of a Career Development Institute, it represents a little bit like the UN I think. It's a neutral body that often times it can be very effective to return to one's shop, where you might have many positive aspects, but something that's really holding you back, one component.

This actually happened to me. I was part of a very early mentored program called the Brookdale National Foundation Aging Fellowship program, back in the beginning of my career. And your mentor went with you to a national conference to discuss how the mentorship relationship was going, so that was kind of interesting.

I had a very productive mentor at that time, at an academic institution that was not Stanford, who said, "But I probably don't have to go to that." And so I thought that was the norm because for this mentor, it was a lot of time for them to travel, they were giving me a lot of feedback at home. We went to, I went back and said, "My mentor won't be coming because they can't travel." And we were told then that the fellowship program would be ceasing.

So I went back to my mentor I said, "I guess they really expect you to come." And it really gave my mentor an increased sort of recognition of the value the program placed on me and what they expected from that mentor, and actually it was tremendous.

And it was not something, it was just purely a lack of perception of what was required by both myself and my mentor. It was no lack of commitment, and so sometimes it's more practical things that you can bring feedback back from senior members in the field that actually enhance your shop locally. And I think that's one of the other marvelous aspects of a career development institute; it gives you the view and the window from other shops.